Pidgin Devs Bite Off More Than They Can Chew

May 12, 2007 at 12:58 am 3 comments

Here’s a great example of when to keep your mouth shut.

In general, the Slackware community is very vocal, it doesn’t usually care what distro you use, but doesn’t like the distro being trashed (especially not its stability and package manager)

On the wiki page on the pidgin website (the original wording has been changed to keep us from continued complaining πŸ˜‰ ) about why Pidgin is only packaged for certain distros there were some slanderous things said about Slackware, when a simple “We don’t use Slackware, therefore don’t provide packages” would have sufficed.

The comment that seems to have been the most hurtful (for lack of a better word) is about Slackware not having a real (read: checks dependencies) package manager. If there’s one thing you don’t do in front of a Slackware users it’s say that pkgtools are not package managers!

Because of this whole incident, the Gaim/Pidgin package has been moved to slackware-unsupported. So what did Pat have to say about all this? Here’s the excerpt from today’s ChangeLog:

xap/pidgin-2.0.0-i486-2.tgz: Here’s a little excerpt from:
http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/WhyPackagesExist
“We have no developers using Slack, and furthermore, several of us actively
dislike that distribution for its history of broken installs, as well as
for its non-existant package management. You cannot create true packages
for Slack.”
Well, I’m somewhat shocked by this, having never (to my knowledge) done
anything to any of the former GAIM or Pidgin developers to make them mad at
me, Slackware, or anyone on the Slackware team. I guess if they feel it’s
not possible to make a “true” Pidgin package for Slackware, there’s no point
in continuing to try. Having put out 7 security advisories on GAIM, I’m
quite sure there will be less work here if Pidgin is not included.
The Pidgin package has been moved to the “unsupported” directory. For the
record, I do not actively dislike Pidgin or any of their developers, but I
do plan to use Kopete from now on.

I guess I’ll need to find a new IM client (and I was looking forward to the new CLI client too! 😦 )

But then again, I guess we could always fork Pidgin. πŸ˜‰ (I vote for the name Slackin πŸ˜€ )

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3 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Shaker  |  May 13, 2007 at 12:16 am

    i will start looking for a new IM client from now too 😦

    Reply
  • 2. Jesse  |  May 14, 2007 at 7:35 pm

    I would have forked 1.5 years ago if I knew where 2.0 was headed. As of right now, 2.0 isn’t even worth it to fork. I think a new messenger should be written.

    Reply
  • 3. d  |  May 7, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    pidgin has just been forked; the fork is called funpidgin and has the explicit goal of having developers that are nicer than that of pidgin

    Reply

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